Sunday, January 03, 2010
Scattered Hearts, Old Worlds



I am listening to Bjork's "Scatterheart" now (from the at-the-time-slept-on Selmasongs, de facto soundtrack to Dancer in the Dark) and yearning for the free and easy days of 95-2001 when the Icelandic Queen made inarguably the most compelling and engaging electronic pop music out there.

What happened to those days, O Cynical Wisp Of The Ever-changing Future? I liked Vespertine enough, especially in 2001, but it felt a little flat and confined even then, and was clearly the end of the line for our fairy princess. Medulla was interesting in theory but kind of something I never ever want to listen to, and while Volta was a return to form... it was only literally so, as it hit upon the successful song structures of Homogenic era Bjork without the soft-touch melodies, magic, or heart.

Fuck man, this is what getting old is all about--you can't do much more with today's present in the future but hang on to the memories of the past. Three such memories below, including one you may have never before heard by Warp artists and occasional co-collaborators Plaid.

LISTEN:

Bjork - "Scatterheart", from Selmasongs

Bjork - "New World", from Selmasongs (tear my fucking year 2000 heart apart)

Plaid (f. Bjork) - "Lilith", from Not For Threes

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posted by Nihilist Loves Hate, Hates Everything at 1/03/2010 04:45:00 AM 2 comments
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Blogger hotdoorknobs said...

vespertine is my favorite -- it's what i always wanted her music to sound like

$0.02

diff folks/etc

1/03/2010 05:40:00 PM  
Blogger Nihilist Loves Hate, Hates Everything said...

i definitely loved Vespertine, and I still think it's great. at the time i thought it was her best, though in hindsight, personally I don't appreciate it as much as Post or Homogenic. But it's still great and inspired and enjoyable to listen to in a way that none of her subsequent output has really been.

1/04/2010 11:33:00 AM  

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Monday, December 28, 2009
The Lunatic Is Again On The Prowl



Every once in a while do questionable things to remind me why I shouldn't make decisions late at night. The most recent particular such incident occurred last week in the wee hours before heading off on the upstate adventure with Odd Job Jaffe, where I decided that it might be worth my time to purchase the just-released Flaming Lips cover of Dark Side of the Moon.

Nope.

It seemed to me like it might actually be cool in theory (at least to the me of 10 years ago--better than Phish covering them on 11/2/98 anyway), though I can understand how it wouldn't even seem cool in theory to many of you. However, it sadly just isn't really worth any ears--much like Beck's recent attempts to cover classic records with his Beck & Friends Record Club project (which are, by the way, worth checking out nonetheless).

I picked out three songs for your "listening pleasure"--Dark Side's concluding suite "Brain Damage>Eclipse", the sweetest and most pleasurable part of the record, and "Great Gig In The Sky", featuring Peaches on full-throated scream-mongering.

The first choice is obvious enough--while much of Dark Side is more or less atmosphere working to conjure sonic ambiance, "Brain Damage>Eclipse" are just two relatively straightforward pop tunes. Wayne Coyne makes this salient and I think often underlooked point on the record: "From a musician's stance... it's not very long. It's only nine songs and some are reprisals of the same theme over and over." Most of us never put much thought into the depth of the record while getting geeking out to it in dark bedrooms or upstate forests, but it's really a pretty short little number with only a couple of actual tunes.

The other track I'm offering is a bit more of a head-scratcher, given that "Great Gig In the Sky" is generally considered by many as the one track on the original record that most of us think we could do without. As a sort of non-Floyd number featuring a swirling instrumental underneath an opera singer more or less belting her heart out to the end of a nonsense world, it's inclusion on the record always seemed a little weird--which I think is why, in some ways, "Gig" ends up surprisingly as the most interesting cover here. Bringing in Peaches was actually an inspired choice, as a) hearing Coyne wah-wah his way through this one would have been about one tick less annoying than hearing Jon Fishman wail and vac his way through it, and b) she obviously brings something different and modern to the fold outside of the psych-drugs-haze Floyd and the Lips. I'm not suggesting that I would try to convince any haters that this is worth their time, but for any of us who wanted this record to work, it's definitely worth a listen.

On this point though, strangely enough most of the other tracks on this record are pegged as "Featuring Henry Rollins"-- but for the life of me I can't really tell what exactly his contribution is to all of this. Most of the leads sound like Wayne Coyne (or else at least not like Henry Rollins), but am I mishearing? All I can make out of the former Black Flag singer are some moments where I hear a speaking voice that appears to be his. It could have been interesting had Rollins been screaming all over this disc, but the end product turns out to be more of a non-event.

In the end... this record would be more interesting were it given away for free. Instead, I feel slightly like a bozo for having given them any dollars (especially when I haven't even bought or heard the most recent Lips record Embryonic, which is actually supposed to be pretty good).

LISTEN:


Flaming Lips ft. Henry Rollins - "Brain Damage", from Dark Side of the Moon

Flaming Lips ft. Henry Rollins - "Eclipse", from Dark Side of the Moon

Flaming Lips ft. Peaches - "Great Gig In The Sky", from Dark Side of the Moon

And one bonus: the always fantastic "Turn It On", from the Lips's '94 poptasmagoria, Transmissions From The Satellite Heart:


Flaming Lips - "Turn It On", from
Transmissions From The Satellite Heart

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Tuesday, September 15, 2009
Re-appraisals: Upon Which Our Heroes Get Excited And Then Rapidly Disappointed By Ill Communication



In our fourth attempt at revisiting our musical pasts, Jayson and I chose the Beastie Boys' Ill Communication, and were quickly reminded how absence can make the heart grow fonder... and an unexpected return can remind the heart why relations were lost.

This is insanely long, so don't read unless you are bored or think you really love(d) mid 90s Beastie Boys.

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styrofoamfuror: ILL COMMUNICATION!
jaychampvinyl: I'm ready
styrofoamfuror: GO

styrofoamfuror: i have not listened to this in so long
styrofoamfuror: and the last time i did in earnest, i knew so so little about rap music
jaychampvinyl: I am liking this so much already
jaychampvinyl: last time I heard this, the things I knew about rap were via osmosis
jaychampvinyl: 1) Public Enemy are cool
jaychampvinyl: 2) Skee Lo has a great song
styrofoamfuror: i knew all about "gangsta rap"
styrofoamfuror: and the Cypress Hill/House of Pain crew
jaychampvinyl: right
jaychampvinyl: I guess I did too
jaychampvinyl: but I didn't care for it
styrofoamfuror: by college i knew about groups like Tribe and Black Star and Dilated Peoples and J5
styrofoamfuror: but what i still knew nothing about was New York hiphop and "classic hiphop"
jaychampvinyl: right
styrofoamfuror: (some of which overlappped)
jaychampvinyl: by college, I had figured out some Wu Tang, Jay Z's REasonable Doubt, and Nas's Illmatifc
jaychampvinyl: tho I didn't spend tons of time with any of it
jaychampvinyl: I had the first Wu Tang record, I had supreme clientele
jaychampvinyl: and those two records
jaychampvinyl: others: Lauryn Hill, The Roots THings Fall Apart, Black Star
jaychampvinyl: Eminem's Marshal Mathers LP
jaychampvinyl: and this and Paul's Boutique
jaychampvinyl: probbbbbbably about it

jaychampvinyl: oof, "Tough Guy"--this fake Bad Brains shit has aged terribly
jaychampvinyl: and wasn't ever really even good, actually
jaychampvinyl: just kinda meant to signify that this was also something that you needed to like if you were going to get down with the new multiculti handbook
jaychampvinyl: so they kinda served as DJs
styrofoamfuror: i remmeber that Tough Guy and Heart Attack man never sat well with me

styrofoamfuror: B-Boys Makin with the Freak Freak sounds like mid 90s Beck
styrofoamfuror: a lot
styrofoamfuror: or perhaps vice versa
jaychampvinyl: yes
jaychampvinyl: not sure which way that goes either
styrofoamfuror: though i have repeated the line, "If i knew it was gonna be this kind of party...."
styrofoamfuror: sooooooo many times
jaychampvinyl: It actually just sounds like a complete retread of "So Whatcha Want"
jaychampvinyl: kinda interesting, tho: this still sounds "cool!"
styrofoamfuror: i think i forgot that by this point especially they were frequently using effects on their voices
styrofoamfuror: to compensate for the fact that they were three reedy sounding white dudes
jaychampvinyl: I was kinda expecting for this to be cringeworthy
jaychampvinyl: in a way
jaychampvinyl: the production, in particular, I was thinking would sound terrible
styrofoamfuror: i suspect it is much less cringeworthy than Check Yr Head would sound now
jaychampvinyl: yes!
jaychampvinyl: seconded
styrofoamfuror: i remember 10 years ago being sorta alone in preferring Ill Communication over that record (whatever nonsense that means)
jaychampvinyl: yeah, me too
jaychampvinyl: John told me that Ill Communication was just a poppier version of Check Your Head
styrofoamfuror: it's also more of an actual rap album
styrofoamfuror: Check Yr Head is more a not great rock/funk album

styrofoamfuror: Root Down still sounds great
styrofoamfuror: god the samples they used were so fucking tasteful
jaychampvinyl: I know!!!!!
jaychampvinyl: this record is fucking great
jaychampvinyl: GREAT
styrofoamfuror: back then i sort of didn't understand sampling and just figured they made everything
styrofoamfuror: i'd never heard ANY of these samples
jaychampvinyl: oh man, same here
jaychampvinyl: maybe not as much here, because they talked so much about finding old funk records
jaychampvinyl: but I NO IDEA that gangsta rappers used samples
jaychampvinyl: I had no inkling that Dre records, or Biggie records, or anything where you couldn't hear the actual record scratching, were samples of older songs
styrofoamfuror: now i know that so much of these comes from awesome 70s jazz records
styrofoamfuror: and funk records

styrofoamfuror: and fucking Sabotage
styrofoamfuror: I can remember the very moment i first heard this song
jaychampvinyl: this still sounds like slow-motion walking bands of roving badasses entering your town with spiked bats
jaychampvinyl: but please share your sabotage story
styrofoamfuror: i had just gotten to germany for a three week visit
styrofoamfuror: July 1994
styrofoamfuror: i was excited but bummed about misssing little league all-stars
jaychampvinyl: haha, a good way to begin any story
styrofoamfuror: I was sick and staying at my aunt's house watching german MTV all day
styrofoamfuror: i remember one day seeing the All-4-One song "I Swear" SEVEN times
jaychampvinyl: YES
styrofoamfuror: four times on MTV
styrofoamfuror: and three times on the german channel
styrofoamfuror: sabotage sounded like literally the coolest thing i'd ever heard
styrofoamfuror: evre
jaychampvinyl: it still kind of does!!!!
jaychampvinyl: jesus, this song is actually giving me chills
jaychampvinyl: IT'S SO FUCKING AWESOM E
jaychampvinyl: GAHHH
styrofoamfuror: i spent the entirety of my trip looking forward to coming home and buying the record
jaychampvinyl: haha

jaychampvinyl: oh man, this Q-Tip song [Get it Together]
styrofoamfuror: yeah dude
jaychampvinyl: this is sorta the record where they became actual hip hop royalty
styrofoamfuror: i had no idea who he was
jaychampvinyl: I had heard him SO much in my bro's car
styrofoamfuror: "Black dude on Beastie Boys record not biz markie?:
jaychampvinyl: hahahaha
jaychampvinyl: yes
styrofoamfuror: the production on this track is fucking great too
styrofoamfuror: the way they work a q-tip sample into the chorus
styrofoamfuror: he even references biz markies
jaychampvinyl: yes!
styrofoamfuror: so i thouhgt maybe it was biz markie
jaychampvinyl: this beat
jaychampvinyl: is SO WEIRD
styrofoamfuror: i remember it took me forever and ever to be able to identify which of the beastie boys were which
jaychampvinyl: oh god
jaychampvinyl: yeah
styrofoamfuror: i think i've forgotten now but i think you need to learn how to listen to rap music
jaychampvinyl: god, you REALLY do
styrofoamfuror: like, in the beginning i think rap can be kind of confusing
styrofoamfuror: so many voices chiming in
jaychampvinyl: soooo confusing!
styrofoamfuror: often for just a verse
jaychampvinyl: and saying so many nonsesnical things
jaychampvinyl: I listened to Illmatic like five hundred times trying to figure out why it was groundbreaking in college
jaychampvinyl: I liked it enough
jaychampvinyl: and some of it was obvious
jaychampvinyl: but SO MANY LINES that just sailed past me
jaychampvinyl: about 80 percent of them, I'd say
jaychampvinyl: were just noises flying over my head
styrofoamfuror: i think another key thing was that in 1995 as a 13 year old knowing nothing about rap, i missed the one bazillion references on this record
styrofoamfuror: so so so many lines quoting other rap songs

styrofoamfuror: at a point down the road, by prob 98 or so, i was pretty obsessed with the instrumentals
jaychampvinyl: this one's solid ["Sabrosa"]
styrofoamfuror: i made a tape out of the instrumentals on this record, Check Yr Head and Hello Nasty
jaychampvinyl: hahaha wow
jaychampvinyl: how about The Insound from way out?
jaychampvinyl: that must have been your JAM
styrofoamfuror: yeah, made while not realizing that there existed an import record called Insound....
styrofoamfuror: i lived in oneonta, ny
styrofoamfuror: so there was no such thing
jaychampvinyl: hahahah, right
styrofoamfuror: i remember being really stoked when i finally found that record
styrofoamfuror: but then bummed that there were only two bonus tracks
styrofoamfuror: and the ones from hello nasty weren't on there
styrofoamfuror: (cause that came out after)



jaychampvinyl: btw, kinda forgot that there was a song on this record called "Bodhisattva Vow"
jaychampvinyl: the beginning of the end
jaychampvinyl: visible only now
jaychampvinyl: kinda like "Revolution No. 9" on the White Album
jaychampvinyl: "uh oh"
jaychampvinyl: SOMETHING WICKED THIS WAY COMES
styrofoamfuror: christgau describes the instrumentals as "the unschooled funk of a prerap garage band"
styrofoamfuror: this song always seemed like a bad acid trip (sorry, mom!)
jaychampvinyl: yup
jaychampvinyl: also: first terrible MCA lyrics about the world and stuff
styrofoamfuror: it was a little too melodeath core
jaychampvinyl: wayy too much so
styrofoamfuror: except at 2:16
styrofoamfuror: when those beautiful sad piano chords come in
jaychampvinyl: oooooh forgot about those
jaychampvinyl: yes
styrofoamfuror: they literally made the song ok to me
jaychampvinyl: "I give respect to King and his nonviolent ways"
jaychampvinyl: how benevolent of MCA to "give" respect to Martin Luther fucking King Jr.
styrofoamfuror: this song, vocal-wise kind of epitomized ways i didn't like their vocals

styrofoamfuror: oh dude
styrofoamfuror: the intro to futterman's rule
styrofoamfuror: Big Youth sample
styrofoamfuror: but this is literally the first time i've known that
styrofoamfuror: and it's fucking great
jaychampvinyl: you are obsessive
jaychampvinyl: btw
jaychampvinyl: yes
jaychampvinyl: these are really great
jaychampvinyl: simple, amateurish, yeah, but somehow nail something
jaychampvinyl: there's some vibe they nail here
jaychampvinyl: they probably created it
jaychampvinyl: like, this WORKS
styrofoamfuror: oh man
jaychampvinyl: and none of them can really play and none of them really know what the fuck theyr'e doing
styrofoamfuror: this is my FAVE of the instrumentals actually
jaychampvinyl: it shouldn't sound this good, logically, when they do this
styrofoamfuror: THEY can't play but Eric Bobo can
styrofoamfuror: as can Money Mark
jaychampvinyl: right
styrofoamfuror: i remember being really bummed that the Insound record didn't have this one on it
styrofoamfuror: and feeling triumphant about my own self-collected tape
jaychampvinyl: yes!
jaychampvinyl: as you should
jaychampvinyl: good old-fashioned questing nerd ingenuity
styrofoamfuror: i definitely put this on as an interlude a few times
jaychampvinyl: while fucking?
jaychampvinyl: 'hold on, hold on, just stay there, I really want to play this song"
jaychampvinyl: 'JUST HOLD ON!"
styrofoamfuror: haaa
styrofoamfuror: i meant on a mix
styrofoamfuror: no fucking at this point in my life
styrofoamfuror: i rememebr trying to scratch records on our record player
styrofoamfuror: "BEN THIS ISN'T A DIRECT DRIVE TURNTABLE!!!"
styrofoamfuror: my mom shouting in the background
jaychampvinyl: hahahahaha
jaychampvinyl: take a disco nap!
jaychampvinyl: I am sure I did that once
jaychampvinyl: just pulled the record back
jaychampvinyl: and then freaked out when it made the WORST sound imaginable

jaychampvinyl: this one sounds a little Soul Coughing-y
styrofoamfuror: yeah, actually "Alright Hear This" is incredibly ala mid 90s Beck
jaychampvinyl: yes
styrofoamfuror: again, i don't know who is first
jaychampvinyl: the cutting/scratching is a little more old-sounding to these ears
styrofoamfuror: but it sounds literally indistinguishable save the lyrics
jaychampvinyl: yes
jaychampvinyl: it does
styrofoamfuror: listen to "In a Cold Ass Fashion"
styrofoamfuror: also from 1994
styrofoamfuror: http://whiskeyclonehotelcity1997layitontothedawnshecantalktosquirrels.net/ghost/songinfo.php?songID=147
styrofoamfuror: which is what he was originally going to call Odelay
jaychampvinyl: Gettin' all caught up in a taste test / And it all basically tastes like crap
styrofoamfuror: exactly
styrofoamfuror: oh man
styrofoamfuror: a great song

jaychampvinyl: haaaaa @ the title "Eugene's Lament"
jaychampvinyl: and also @ the song itself
styrofoamfuror: hahah, yes
styrofoamfuror: is that a violin?
jaychampvinyl: this is retarded
jaychampvinyl: yes
styrofoamfuror: this also sounds Beck-ish
jaychampvinyl: in a terrible sort of way
styrofoamfuror: for some reason (reason: i am sloppy and not astute) as a kid i never heard the similarity
styrofoamfuror: now i'm becoming increasingly convinced that half of this record is near-interchangeable with some less exciting understanding of mid 90s beck
jaychampvinyl: hahaha yes
jaychampvinyl: also, it is wearing on me a bit
jaychampvinyl: pretty samey towards the end
jaychampvinyl: this is more the unexciting gumbo I was expecting
styrofoamfuror: so basically tracks 1-7 are more or less exhilarating
styrofoamfuror: tracks 8-12 zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
jaychampvinyl: the back half is Starbucks turntablism
styrofoamfuror: there is really not a ton of actual rapping on this record
jaychampvinyl: this is turning into a slog for me

styrofoamfuror: Do It
styrofoamfuror: not exciting
styrofoamfuror: is the result
jaychampvinyl: I am starting to have uncharitable thoughts about 1997-era goateed hipsters
jaychampvinyl: I am seeing them doing stupid dances in my head
styrofoamfuror: apparently the single version of "Get It Together" did NOT have Qtip on it?
jaychampvinyl: whoa, weird
styrofoamfuror: i'm not sure how that song exists without him
jaychampvinyl: me neither?
jaychampvinyl: they must recut the whole song
jaychampvinyl: yeah the back half is straight bong water-Sega Genesis music
styrofoamfuror: yeh dude, i was right there
styrofoamfuror: to put on between phish bootleg tapes

styrofoamfuror: also: "Sure Shot" was one of the songs deemed inappropriate to play on radio after Sept 11 by Clear Channel
styrofoamfuror: "Clear Channel Banned Songs"
styrofoamfuror: thanks Mays family
styrofoamfuror: you fucking scumbags
styrofoamfuror: Sabotage was also banned
styrofoamfuror: Louis Armstrong, "What a Wonderful World"
jaychampvinyl: jesus fucking christ, those people
jaychampvinyl: that list
jaychampvinyl: is straight gestapo
jaychampvinyl: (no huffpo)
styrofoamfuror: Dave Matthews "Crash Into Me"
styrofoamfuror: David Bowie and Mick Jagger "Dancing in the Street" (probably a good thing since it's fucking godawful)
jaychampvinyl: "We are banning all 80s Rolling Stones, mostly befcause it sucks"
jaychampvinyl: I love that this is "Ricky's Theme"
jaychampvinyl: also: haaa
styrofoamfuror: Heart Attack Man is better than Tough Guy
styrofoamfuror: but existed as a novelty even as an unperformed idea
jaychampvinyl: a little diddy about a good guy I know
jaychampvinyl: Man, at this point, I'm just thinking about Paul's Boutique
jaychampvinyl: and how good "Shadrach" would probalby sound at this point in the running time
styrofoamfuror: i'm getting bumcore now
styrofoamfuror: how the fuck could they have banned Cat Stevens "Peace Train"
styrofoamfuror: fucking dicks
styrofoamfuror: i have Mark Mays's cell phone number by the way
styrofoamfuror: remind me to distribute on the internet at some point
styrofoamfuror: (he's the CEO)
jaychampvinyl: hahaha, yes
styrofoamfuror: the only thing i can say favorably is that the company is doing terribly now
styrofoamfuror: so they're getting theirs (sorta, not really)
styrofoamfuror: "All songs by Rage Against the Machine"
styrofoamfuror: Sugar Ray "Fly"
jaychampvinyl: JESUSSSS
styrofoamfuror: let's ban literally the most innocuous song ever written
jaychampvinyl: but he wants to Fly
jaychampvinyl: (A PLANE INTO THE PENTAGON)
styrofoamfuror: what a fucking mental arbitrary list
styrofoamfuror: Limp Bizkit "Break Stuff"
styrofoamfuror: haha no more sorry
jaychampvinyl: tjat
jaychampvinyl: that's one I can get behind
jaychampvinyl: Fred Durst incited mass rapes

styrofoamfuror: oh man Shambala
styrofoamfuror: we are listening the beastie boys
styrofoamfuror: and this record has turned into muddled nonsense
jaychampvinyl: jesus god
jaychampvinyl: this is it
jaychampvinyl: this is Revolution NO. 9
jaychampvinyl: I am so very ready for the Beastie Boys to finish Ill communicating with me
styrofoamfuror: it's like they just put a record on 20 minutes ago and left the room
jaychampvinyl: this is the song that presaged just how awful they were going to become
jaychampvinyl: as people
jaychampvinyl: and as people making music
jaychampvinyl: not awful as people
jaychampvinyl: just laughable
jaychampvinyl: to me, this is some bono awfulness
jaychampvinyl: if you're into Buddhism
jaychampvinyl: don't aggrandize about it on your album
jaychampvinyl: plz
styrofoamfuror: this was literally pot consumption tunes

jaychampvinyl: so, wow, turns out this album could have ended after "Get IT Together"
styrofoamfuror: Bodhisattva Vow
styrofoamfuror: fuckign terrible
styrofoamfuror: this is unpleasant to listen to
jaychampvinyl: "I'll be glad if it helps anyone else out, too"
styrofoamfuror: i remember never liking this one
jaychampvinyl: GAAAAAAAAH
jaychampvinyl: this makes KRS-One look like a funny, laidback dude
jaychampvinyl: I CAN'T BELIEVE ADAM YAUCH DID THIS
styrofoamfuror: yeah
styrofoamfuror: terrible

jaychampvinyl: ok
jaychampvinyl: deep breath
jaychampvinyl: transitions
jaychampvinyl: final track
styrofoamfuror: Transitions isn't terrible
jaychampvinyl: back into mediocre-funk territory
jaychampvinyl: and it's pleasing
styrofoamfuror: it's actually totally acceptable out of context
styrofoamfuror: just not really in the context of having been subjected to 12 previous tracks of either lite-funk, bad buddhism or boring fuzz-rap
jaychampvinyl: hahaha
jaychampvinyl: exactly
jaychampvinyl: well put
jaychampvinyl: weird how quickly this turned for me
jaychampvinyl: I was REALLY into this
jaychampvinyl: for the first third
jaychampvinyl: I can no loinger believe that "Sabotage" is on this album
styrofoamfuror: "jaychampvinyl: IT'S SO FUCKING AWESOM E"
jaychampvinyl: I KNOW

styrofoamfuror: ok over
styrofoamfuror: wow
styrofoamfuror: shittown
jaychampvinyl: hahaha
styrofoamfuror: no wonder people talked shit on this album
styrofoamfuror: at least Check Yr Head is like 35 mintues
jaychampvinyl: THERE IT WAS, FOLKS- YOUR TRI-WEEKLY FUNDAY AFTERNOON MEMORY-RAPING BUZZKILL
styrofoamfuror: hahahaha
styrofoamfuror: yep

The final verdict: things went down easier when I was a know-nothing teenager who smoked pot all day dreaming what it would be like to "have a girlfriend" or "leave upstate New York".

LISTEN:

Beastie Boys - "Sabotage" (I still fucking love you!)
Beastie Boys - "Shambala"

And for old time's sake, the video for "Sabotage" (with 20 second intro):

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Wednesday, September 02, 2009
Twin Beaks




HOLY COW. Somehow I never knew this existed until now, thanks to Sig Sauer. WOW.

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Monday, August 31, 2009
Death Becomes Us

Oneonta backroads (from here)

The father of my best childhood friend passed away yesterday. He was one of those capital M Men(sch) whose life was simultaneously as complicated and yet empirically as simple as possible. He was a man who loved the hunger of life, and yet respected a need to keep things responsibly in order so that he could maximize his throttle-pushing opportunities when he got the chance.

Harry "Buddy" S**** was the kind of man that I, at the age of 13, both failed to understand and yet got completely. So unlike my father--a man who in every minute of his existence kept things restrained, measured, safe--Buddy seemed to understand that life was best experienced by laying out parameters and then, occasionally and with focus and concentration, stepping beyond them. I had friends' dads who were like my own, and even more who were the opposite--careless, selfish, with agendas on their own from their families. But almost none were like Buddy, with caution, care, and responsibility so carefully intertwined with a willful desire to push the pedal to the floor and go go go.

I've already used two speeding car metaphors--well, it's hard not to with Buddy because he certainly loved to step on the gas pedal. How fast can we get to the ski mountain today from home? If we go fast enough over that bump will we actually feel our hearts hit our throats? Yeah, Buddy loved to race. But we also all knew not to think for a second that the car wouldn't be going anywhere if someone's seatbelt were unbuckled.

Classic Buddy story@@: He once got pulled over after driving on Interstate-88 for only one exit. He had just purchased a new pride and joy, a Audi A6, and decided to test it out by stepping on the gas when he went up the interstate on-ramp and let go when he exited a mile down the road. He got up to, I believe, 108 mph. And yet somehow, because he was Buddy, a charming man for whom the word charisma was created, he got off with a ticket for 78 and a warning to be more careful next time.

I've met plenty of folks who had charisma and charm like that who were also full of shit--two-faced fakers who cared more about impressing those outside of their lives than taking care of those within. But this wasn't Buddy either--Buddy was as bullshit-free as they come. He was a man who was refreshingly honest and so blunt and to the point at times as to be brutal. But for him, beating around the bush was a waste of his time and yours, time that could be better spent living and learning and figuring out how to do things better the next time.

As might guess, Buddy was sort of a father to me, or at least a significant male role model--he was the man I never realized that I always needed my father to be: a brash, ballsy, charming man who picked flowers for the ladies and talked his way into whatever he wanted, but all the time respecting and caring for those around him, sacrificing his own needs and desires to help his family and friends.

That Audi? As much as it was his pride and joy, he let his wife use it as her primary car. And the nice Volvo he gave to his son when he got his license. Buddy instead chose to drive a beatup '84 Volvo he'd taken from a scrap heap and restored slowly. It ran terribly and often died in the winter, but he knew that outside of the moments he'd set aside to live large, he didn't need anything more than simplicity to get by with the rest of his life.

And that was it: for a man who seemed to need to make time to catch some of life's proverbial Big Air, he seemed to understand that he'd be able to enjoy it more if he balanced it with tons of slow cruises down the green circle slopes that, in reality, make up most of life's trails***. This dichotomy of living was something that I think I struggled to appreciate intellectually as a kid, mostly because kids have no idea how hard it is for adults to find a good balance as they age between youthful wild action/indiscretion and the cautious conservatism of parenthood and old age.

I know that Buddy too had some demons--he drank too much, he struggled a bit figuring out how to raise his first child, he sometimes couldn't put the cap back on the bottle if the good times had been unleashed and he was having too much fun. But they were admissible outcomes in the life of a man who seemed to have figured out the magic secret for living large for those of us with neither the skills of the pro nor the bank account of the rich man. He put a lot of thought into what he knew made him happy, and figured out how to invest the time, energy and money he had wisely into those endeavors and not waste it on the rest.

Because of the way he which I was in his son's life--through sports teams and science projects, I got to see the full-throttle Buddy constantly. On some strange, unexpected level, he taught me how to be a man more than even my own dad, or at least to be the man that I am now: find the meat of life you most want to eat and then sink your teeth into it and chew tenaciously, savoring every bit like it's your last (while of course remembering to share with others if they depend on you).

Sadly, the last time I saw Buddy was probably five to seven years ago--I can't remember if I was out of college or not. And really, since his son and I grew apart in high school (he looked through microscopes and saw amoebas; I saw swirling kaleidoscopes of lysergic nothingness), my last period of spending a lot of time with him was probably 10th grade. But from age 12-15, few people in my life impacted me as much weight as he, and his simple-but-devoted thoughts and ideas posited on life resonate with me still today.

Of all these things in particular is road bicycling, which both he and his son were into when I was in their lives and which I completely hated. At the time, road biking seemed to me like an entirely masochistic endeavor, akin to running as something that no one could possibly enjoy even if they did it well$$$$. Buddy laughed it off though and told me that I was being a baby and had no idea what I was talking about--when you bike, you are a machine, he said, and there's isn't much in life that can feel more beautiful and meditative than that. And the one thing he told me that I think of literally every single time I mount a bike is that, as an extension of the man-as-machine idea, your goal for getting on a bike should be to determine what your ideal pedaling RPM should be (cadence) and then stick to it, for the entire ride--shifting gears as necessary but never pedaling any more or less than the chosen rate. Know thyself, sparrow, and know it well, and ye shall find the God within.

Oddly enough, in the midst of my miserable eleven hour God-must-hate-me ride to Montauk on Saturday, I thought of Buddy a lot. At no point in all of the biking I've done in 2008 or 2009 did I feel more unsatisfied and not wanting to be on a bike as I did Saturday, but to stay on the bike and keep going I just kept thinking of Buddy and repeating the word "cadence" to myself, over and over again. I decided somewhere around mile 80 that I would write Buddy a very short letter when I got home that said,
"Dear Buddy:

I still remember 'cadence', and everything else.
You are a great man, and I want you to know how much you meant to me.

Love, Ben"
And like everything else about dipshit 27 year olds living in New York, I forgot when I got home that night and passed out instead. And then next day, it didn't matter.

So:

Dear Buddy,

I'm writing this to you now even though it's too late: you are an amazing man, and you can't possibly know how important you were to me in helping me learn about how I might become the sort of person I should want to be. I'm sorry that I probably never made that clear enough to you when I was a dumb teenager hanging around your home, but I hope that somehow you knew anyway.

I love you forever, and hope that your soul rests easy wherever it decides to go.

love always,
Benjamin Scheim

LISTEN:

NOTES:
@@ -- I have no doubt that i've gotten some of the exact details in some of these stories wrong, so if you were there and know I missed something, sorry, but the spirit remains true regardless.
*** -- Not on the actual ski slope, of course--for an old man, he certainly loved letting it rip, and was the only parent of any of my friends (besides my ski coach) who I enjoyed skiing with
$$$$ -- While I still feel this way about running, I admit now that it's possible i'm wrong on this one too.

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

I feel the same way you do, thank you for putting it into words. So many good times with him...

-Carrick

9/02/2009 03:34:00 AM  
Blogger Dustin said...

He got the car up to 110 and when my mom asked how fast we were going we told her 75. I love you Ben, thank you.

9/02/2009 05:05:00 AM  

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Friday, August 28, 2009
Extra Wicked Games



EK: new blog
EK: http://carillonbelltower.tumblr.com/
JeffreyBeaumont: i like that name a lot
JeffreyBeaumont: where'd you get it from?
EK: its how they discovered the first music box
EK: it was the sound this tower made
JeffreyBeaumont: really???
EK: yeah
JeffreyBeaumont: i could listen to wicked game*** 10000x times
EK: haha
EK: yeah i did when i was 13
EK: i swore i would lose my virginity to that song
EK: i was such a dork
JeffreyBeaumont: haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
JeffreyBeaumont: wow
JeffreyBeaumont: that is so awesome
JeffreyBeaumont: can i put that on the internet?
EK: yes

***Sidenote: i used to know Helena Christensen through my old job and still remember the day she told me she loved my hat.

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Wednesday, August 19, 2009
Sometimes It Just Takes An Old Friend To Get You Through The Day

From here.

In certain times, taking solace in an old friend can bring you comfort when the world makes you weary. Today, I miss the furry creature in my arms above (she's still alive, just not in my life). So instead I have a favorite Belle & Sebastian song:


Belle & Sebastian - "The State That I Am In (alt version)" from Dog On Wheels EP / Push Barman compilation

And I also wrote a bit about this song and others by Belle & Sebastian back in Feb 06 (back in the pre-.net slangeditorial.blogspot.com days)--you can check it out here.

Hi, Bessie:


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Sunday, August 09, 2009
Billy, Billy: Can I Love You Again?

Me, building our house, 1984. From here.

Right now I am at home and electively listening to--and enjoying!-- the Smashing Pumpkins in a non-nostalgic way for the first time in so many years--early college, at a minimum, and even that seems maybe not true. And it feels mighty strange.

It seems to have all started with me downloading acquiring the soundtrack to Singles a month ago and rediscovering "Drown", their great--albeit Collective Soul-sounding--contribution to that record. Then after a few weeks of spinning that track I felt inspired to pull fave b-side "Pennies" out of the cobwebs, and then at the beginning of this week I suddenly had an urge to listen to Smashing Pumpkins uninterrupted for more than two songs and went ahead and downloaded the two best tracks off the given-away-for-free Machina II record put out in 2000 as a sequel/sorry guys to the awful final Pumpkins album Machina. By downloading "Let Me Give The World To You" and "In My Body", I know had 15+ minutes of Smashing Pumpkins on my computer, and I guess it was enough to make me say, "Go for it!" and get something else.

Luckily, in wanting to listen to more Smashing Pumpkins, I didn't have to really "get" anything--I owned most of their "worthwhile" albums (up through Mellon Collie singles) and still have the discs tucked away in some never-ever-ever-flipped through cd binders under my bed.

Still, I'm pretty sure (though I might be wrong!) that even with the openest of minds, I would have trouble right now getting into Siamese Dream or, especially, Mellon Collie. I listened to each of those records way too many times as a developing teen and anytime I've put them on since then has felt mostly awkward and/or unenjoyable. Less "experienced" for me though, are debut record Gish and the Gish/Siamese era b-sides collection Pisces Iscariot, and so I decided that they would be the best place to start. In particular, I had a feeling I would enjoy the latter as I recalled it being a more fully formed peak-era Pumpkins than the more gestational efforts of Gish. In just thinking about it, I could already hear "Obscured" playing in my head...

zap zap zap zap zap.


zap zap zap zap zap.

One amazing thing about being a kid vs. being a crazed adult music obsessive is how as a youth I would get into groups through one or two records and listen the shit out of those records--blam blam every day: blasting on my boombox at home, my Walkmen/Discmen on the schoolbus/bike/streets, on poorly recorded cassettes played in my parents' cars. I bled with them and they bled me. Unfortunately, with most of those discs--the aforementioned Pumpkins, Nevermind, Vs., Joshua Tree, Automatic for the People, Sgt. Peppers, Led Zeppelin's II, IV, Houses of the Holy, and a million other classic rock records--my relationship with most of them was not as a farmer tending to his crops and periodically picking fruit, but one where I ate every bit of the plant until there was nothing left to grow again. Growing out of this kind of behavior is part of growing up as a music devotee, but it means that an overhead glance of the fields of my musical landscape includes many patches of dry leaves and scorched earth.

This way of singular listening was fueled admittedly by a limitation of funds and a coming of age in a pre-broadband world where everything wasn't easily available for free download (or even brain awareness). I knew some kids who could just head down to their local record store and pick up whatever they felt like, but I wasn't one of them--and anyway, again, even if I could have, I didn't even know how to find out about stuff that wasn't known by my parents or written up in Rolling Stone.

Which meant that despite listening to Siamese Dream more from 1993-1999 than any other record in my collection (and Mellon Collie to a similar albeit lesser extent from 96-99), I had
never even heard either Gish--or known about Pisces Iscariot--up to that point. In today's world of instant knowledge accumulation, pondering the ramifications of this fact sort of astonishes me: there was a point, just very recently, when I was even beyond childhood, when not only could I not find "anything" out instantly, but when I might not even attempt to try. For a voracious truth-seeker like myself, I have to give a little laugh. Especially when I think about myself and the fact that at age 16 I was way more obsessed with Truth than the "truths" I am intrigued by now.

In any event, it meant that by the point in time in which I'd finally purchased these two records, I'd already moved beyond my Love for the Smashing Pumpkins, and the process of tearing them apart to discover their secrets no longer appealed to me. But to be clear: this non-exploration is not to be confused with, say, loving U2 or Led Zeppelin and getting a Pop or In Through the Out Door, shallow/mediocre records not worth exploring. Therefore, unopened--or rather, opened and then re-wrapped--Christmas presents they became, sitting on my proverbial and literal shelves gathering dust.

And now, here I am in August 2009 listening to them again and trying to care for the first time.

zap zap zap zap zap.



High on drugs, always, 1997. From here.

zap zap zap zap zap.

As I began my first listening of Pisces Iscariot, I was sort of shocked at how much I was not bothered by Billy Corgan, an arrogant and whiny-voiced man who probably should have always annoyed me more than he did. Sorry, Billy, but your antics are trying and your act tired. In later periods of Smashing Pumpkins (beginning with Mellon Collie, but especially so after that), Corgan's singing began to take on less of a "lead singer" and more of a "wannabe ominous godhead" tenor. Thankfully, on these early records, he's just a man who wants to be heard, and it's largely ok (minus one truly cringeworthy moment on his cover of the Fleetwood Mac standard "Landslide").

But overall? Yeah, I dig. Most of Pisces is still pretty great. There's a handful of throwaway thrashers, but many these songs--especially "Obscured", "Whir" and "La Dolly Vita"--are largely good enough to continue standing up today, and perhaps most importantly, don't sound sonically dated. It's true that listening makes you think "90s" but I have to believe that has more to do with the powerful psychological associations people have with Corgan's voice than anything else. Compare that to literally ANYTHING pre-95 by Pearl Jam, Soundgarden or other early 90s alt-mainstream leaders (save In Utero), all of which are timestamped forever, and you have to hand it to Billy--he may have been a crazy asshole (especially in the studio), but he relied on different techniques and sounds than he's peers and thus made music that can live on a little longer without aggressively connoting a dark-haired Bill Clinton. Even on Gish, which I put on after Pisces, I was surprised at how great and fully-formed they sound. The songwriting is a little weaker than his later efforts, but the musicianship and sound are excellent. I'm still surprised that I skipped right past this disc, even after digesting Siamese Dream$$$, but that was the way of things in 1994 before the world wide web existed for normal people.

Anyway, there's some thoughts on revisiting Billy & Co. Below make sure to check out a few of those I particularly enjoyed.

LISTEN:
Smashing Pumpkins - "Obscured", from Pisces Iscariot
Smashing Pumpkins - "Whir", from Pisces Iscariot

BONUS LISTEN:
Smashing Pumpkins - "Sweet Sweet" > "Luna", from Siamese Dream

I once felt that "Sweet Sweet">"Luna" was the greatest one-two punch of sappy alternative rock sweetness I thought I would EVER hear. In high school I was once in love with a girl named Amy (not the girl whom my parents let me name my sister after***) and I felt triumphant as a placed these numbers at the end--She's GONNA like this! Now, haa, well, yeah. I still swoon a little but I guess I'm also a little older.

NOTES:
$$$ -- Oddly enough I didn't even pick up Siamese Dream through my own volition--my grandmother actually bought up for me together with Pearl Jam's Vs. on a Saturday afternoon in October 1993. I remember coming home from playing at a friend's after a morning soccer match and finding both cds sitting on my kitchen table with a note from my grandmother (who was in town visiting) saying that she'd read about Vs. in the papers as being a cd "all the kids are onto" and asked the store clerk to recommend another one as well (hence Siamese Dream). To this day, the fact that this ever happened completely bewilders me--after years and years of sweaters and sweatpants and strange gifts given to me before and after this point, I still fail to understand how on this one afternoon my grandma somehow just nailed it. Life is crazy sometimes, isn't it?
*** -- No joke--my parents really did let their five and a half year old son name their newborn daughter. This story probably deserves its own post but here goes: I was in love with a girl in my kindergarten class named Amy Lott-Webb and when my sister was about to be born that December, my parents were bandying about the name Amelia for my sister if she turned out to be a girl. As the greedy logical tyrant that I am, I actually went to them to convince them that despite the fact that Amy is not technically an official shortening of Amelia, it ought to be (more so than Bill for William or Jack for John). For reasons that I am too young to remember and to this day will probably never understand, they actually bought my argument and even went one step further by choosing to only refer to her as Amy. Her birth certificate technically says Amelia, but the only time I ever remember hearing it is when my parents got mad at her (which, people, was practically never).

Incidentally, Amy Lott-Webb moved out of my hometown at the end of the next year, and outside of one chance meeting when we were nine years old, I never saw her again. However, two years ago when I went back to Oneonta to get a tattoo, I learned amidst of having his needle pound in my chest that my tattoo artist Taylor, a young man who'd moved up from Alabama the year before, was engaged to be married to a pregnant Amy Lott-Webb, who had apparently moved back to Oneonta and met him and fell in love. The realization was so crazy to me that I flinched and caused him to almost stab me with the needle; leading him to ask what was wrong, at which point I told him and pointed to my sister lying on the table next to me, at which point he flinched and almost stabbed me again.

What craziness. And somehow completing the cosmic silliness of it all, he gave us a painting he'd made of a Ringo Starr as gift (Zooey Deschanel, it's right here if you're bored). Life, I love you.

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Blogger The Real Matt Wright said...

Hey, I'm just some random guy who found this post and enjoyed reading it. Thanks for posting, and yeah, Pumpkins mostly rule. I love the 90s.

8/17/2009 01:34:00 PM  
Blogger Nihilist Loves Hate, Hates Everything said...

Thanks, Matt, glad you enjoyed and much appreciated. I'm all about revisiting the past. And speaking of which, pretty sure we used to have a link up to your site I think back in the ole 2004-05 Slang groupblog days. I'll get 'er back up.

8/18/2009 12:04:00 PM  

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Monday, August 03, 2009
Re-Appraisal Live: Does Kim Gordon Really Ruin Everything?

After our last effort in "re-appraising" Pearl Jam's No Code, Jay and I thought it would be fun to head towards a record of old that we might still want to listen to today. After running through a few choices, we settled on Sonic Youth's classic 1992 album Dirty, their second release for Geffen and the first where they finally had begun receiving some mainstream attention... hence Jay and I both listening to it before we had any real taste.

Let the re-appraising commence. Note that this post is deprariously long. Sometimes you just gotta let it run free:




JeffreyBeaumont: ok, you ready?
jaychampionvinyl: I'm so ready you can call me Helen
JeffreyBeaumont: GREAT. 1, 2, 3, GO

JeffreyBeaumont: oh man this fucking intro. I LOVE IT.
jaychampionvinyl: this .... doesn't sound old.
JeffreyBeaumont: i forgot that 100% is my favorite Sonic Youth song
jaychampionvinyl: it sounds like amazing.
jaychampionvinyl: this is not going to be an elevated critical discussion...it's mostly going to be "OMG!"
JeffreyBeaumont: dude, this is the first sonic youth song i ever heard
JeffreyBeaumont: i had heard so much nirvana-related buzz about this band, over and over
jaychampionvinyl: same!
JeffreyBeaumont: i ordered this record in 94 from Columbia House
JeffreyBeaumont: or maybe it was BMG
jaychampionvinyl: trivia question: do you remember what other records arrived with it?
(something tells me maybe you do)
JeffreyBeaumont: no
JeffreyBeaumont: that was 93
JeffreyBeaumont: but
JeffreyBeaumont: i remember hearing 100% and thinking, "WHOA WOW WTF AWESOME LOUDNESS"
JeffreyBeaumont: but then "Swimsuit Issue" came on
JeffreyBeaumont: and i'm like, "Who the FUCK is singing? Is that a woman?"
jaychampionvinyl: hahahahahahaha, yeah
JeffreyBeaumont: it's so atonal
jaychampionvinyl: it sounds like it could either be a woman or a really pinched sounding bratty annoying 20 year old
man
JeffreyBeaumont: yes
jaychampionvinyl: "I ain't givin you head in a Sunset bungalow!"
jaychampionvinyl: fair enough, Kim
JeffreyBeaumont: despite reading over and over that SY was "experimental"
JeffreyBeaumont: i still was expecting super melodious riffage ala Nirvana
jaychampionvinyl: I actually DIDN'T like 100% at all when I first heard it
jaychampionvinyl: too "atonal"
jaychampionvinyl: the guy "couldn't sing"
JeffreyBeaumont: yeah i think i'm overemphasizing the awesome
JeffreyBeaumont: i think on very first listen i probably didn't like it
JeffreyBeaumont: but i think i came around quickly
jaychampionvinyl: I saw the video on 120 Minutes
and was like "this song would be awesome if he sang it right"
JeffreyBeaumont: i remember learning years later how to play it on guitar
jaychampionvinyl: hahahah
"DETUNE GUITAR, HIT WITH FACE"
JeffreyBeaumont: in order to do so, you need to detune the low FOUR strings to F#
JeffreyBeaumont: so it's like F# F# F# F# E B
JeffreyBeaumont: that was probably 96 or 97 when i tried that
JeffreyBeaumont: and suddenly i remember understanding why it all sounded so sludgy
JeffreyBeaumont: i also remember being tremendously annoyed that i then was unable to play ANY other songs on my guitar until i tuned it back

JeffreyBeaumont: but to go back to Swimsuit Issue
JeffreyBeaumont: the hilarious thing about that is that despite the fact that I hated the song
JeffreyBeaumont: i had just gotten my first subscription to Sports Illustrated the previous year
and i remmeber my mouth actually dropping as I began recognizing every name that Kim mouthed
JeffreyBeaumont: "Those are the models in the magazine!"
JeffreyBeaumont: Including one she mentions named Vendela, who was the cover girl in '93
jaychampionvinyl: hahahahaha
JeffreyBeaumont: i'm googling it right now
JeffreyBeaumont: but without even looking i remember she was wearing a silver strangely shaped suit
either on the cover or on one of the pages inside
JeffreyBeaumont: BOOM! http://swimsuit-issue.com/1993.html
JeffreyBeaumont: god i loved that shit
JeffreyBeaumont: i probably looked at it 500 times
JeffreyBeaumont: anyway....
jaychampionvinyl: wow
jaychampionvinyl: her boobs don't even look like boods
jaychampionvinyl: they look like shoulders
jaychampionvinyl: on her chest
JeffreyBeaumont: yeah Vendela was never exciting to me
JeffreyBeaumont: but look to the left
JeffreyBeaumont: i LOVED the redhead girl
JeffreyBeaumont: and Ashley Richardson below her
jaychampionvinyl: hahaha, I love that this discussion has turned, three tracks in, to a discussion of Sports Illustrated Swimsuit models
JeffreyBeaumont: yes. two tracks actually.
JeffreyBeaumont: but that's the thing
JeffreyBeaumont: i didn't know anything about music in 93
JeffreyBeaumont: and really only understood pop music

JeffreyBeaumont: but getting back to things tho...
JeffreyBeaumont: Theresa's
JeffreyBeaumont: i was like, "Whoa, 'dark'", with that spindly guitar
jaychampionvinyl: this is the first noise smear on this recorfd
jaychampionvinyl: sounds sickly
jaychampionvinyl: funny how there is still the pentatonic riffing to hold onto tho
JeffreyBeaumont: really creepy
JeffreyBeaumont: because the noise is built up
jaychampionvinyl: it's never TOO far
JeffreyBeaumont: it's actually pretty digestible dark early 90s grunge/indie
JeffreyBeaumont: and as i grew up i came to LOVE the noise breakdown
JeffreyBeaumont: but then as soon as that ends...

JeffreyBeaumont: "Drunken Butterfly"
JeffreyBeaumont: SCREEEEECH
JeffreyBeaumont: I remmeber thinking by track 4, "What is this shit? Why do people compare these guys to Nirvana?!?"
jaychampionvinyl: yeah, its funny how little this record makes me think of the time period iduring which it was released
jaychampionvinyl: Sonic Youth, as a band, were a college experience for me
jaychampionvinyl: I owned this and played it dutifully
jaychampionvinyl: but it got about 1/100000th of the burn that, like, Ritual De Lo Habitual, Live THrough This, and Mellon Collie did
jaychampionvinyl: to me, this feels very much like "now" music
JeffreyBeaumont: i hear you
JeffreyBeaumont: it's diffeernt for me, at least with this record (and to a lesser extent Daydream Nation)
JeffreyBeaumont: because i sort of forced myself to listen and appreciate. not any others, but this one.

JeffreyBeaumont: "Shoot" brings it back down though
JeffreyBeaumont: I just love love this track and always did

JeffreyBeaumont: ok... so i'm on "Wish Fulfillment" now
JeffreyBeaumont: THIS song makes me think of the early 90s
JeffreyBeaumont: way more than Thurston, lee renaldo's voice to me says "90S INDIE ROCK"
Jayson: makes me think of, like, "Heart Shaped Box" meets Metallica's "One"
Jayson: and agreed on the voice.
Jayson: this is a way of singing that only existed during the George Herbert Walker Bush administration and the first Clinton term.
JeffreyBeaumont: haha yes.
JeffreyBeaumont: i always rememebr thinking that i liked his voice better than thurston's even though i knew it was worse
JeffreyBeaumont: on a final supermodel-related note
http://www.bellazon.com/main/index.php?s=a2cf16654290c50afcd7b7dff636f224&act=attach&type=post&id=261432
JeffreyBeaumont: this photo blew me away
JeffreyBeaumont: from either 93 or 95 SI swimsuit issue
JeffreyBeaumont: oh Ashley
JeffreyBeaumont: basically listening to this record makes me think of sitting in my room late at night in 6th and 7th grade and flipping through my saved (never discarded) issues of the Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Issue, as I pondered notions of adolescence and my burgeoning sexuality
jaychampionvinyl: hahahahah
jaychampionvinyl: BASICALLY THIS WAS MY WANKING RECORD
JeffreyBeaumont: yes
JeffreyBeaumont: so

JeffreyBeaumont: "Sugar Kane"
you there
jaychampionvinyl: sorry, yes...I just restarted Sugar Kane
jaychampionvinyl: I'm back on track
JeffreyBeaumont: this was the first song I remmeber really clicking when i began listening as an adult
jaychampionvinyl: Sugar Kane?
JeffreyBeaumont: like, at some point at age 17 or so i put it on and suddenly it blew me away
JeffreyBeaumont: and it was like, at that exact moment i finally "got" sonic youth
jaychampionvinyl: god this record is so so so good
JeffreyBeaumont: yes, and this song in particular
jaychampionvinyl: whoa, this outro is such an unexpected sunray
JeffreyBeaumont: yes
JeffreyBeaumont: and i definitely liked this track in the early days.... but i didn't get it
JeffreyBeaumont: like most of this record
JeffreyBeaumont: but in some way it feels like this track more than anything else from the 91-95 period... which explains why Sonic Youth were associated with grunge
Jayson: I think it also has a lot to do with Thurston's vocal inflections
JeffreyBeaumont: it does
JeffreyBeaumont: but i think it also has to do with the intersection between melodious guitars and off-the-path experimentation
JeffreyBeaumont: like, the next track "Orange Rolls" doesn't sound THAT crazy compared to a lot of real indie stuff from the time
JeffreyBeaumont: but compared to mainstream indie/grunge it sounds like atonal craziness
JeffreyBeaumont: "Sugar Kane" seems like some real meeting point between the worlds

JeffreyBeaumont: "Orange Rolls"
jaychampionvinyl: Orange Rolls
JeffreyBeaumont: this was one more track i hated
JeffreyBeaumont: i just could not understand these trashy kim songs
jaychampionvinyl: her voice is an acquired taste
jaychampionvinyl: kiinnda sounds like Jimbo from the Simpsons retching
JeffreyBeaumont: there was a huge dichotomy of warm thurston and uncle lee and creepy skeezthrash momma Kim
jaychampionvinyl: hahaha
jaychampionvinyl: great fucking breakdown/jamout section in this one, tho
JeffreyBeaumont: yes, that is something as an adult i can appreciate and actually love
jaychampionvinyl: it's so uncanny how loosely tight they are
jaychampionvinyl I realize sounds aggressively meaningless
jaychampionvinyl: but it's such a weird trick
JeffreyBeaumont: hahah
JeffreyBeaumont: it is
jaychampionvinyl: to sound together, but JUST BARELY
jaychampionvinyl: to be able to cohere
JeffreyBeaumont: i think that's the detuning thing
JeffreyBeaumont: making them sound atonal/amateurish
JeffreyBeaumont: but in fact tremendously in sync with one another
jaychampionvinyl: yes, but I've seen them jam live and it really is an esxperience of watching four musicians tear everything down

JeffreyBeaumont: oh man
JeffreyBeaumont: so we are now at what for me in 1993/4 was THE BEST moment
jaychampionvinyl: YOUTH
AGAINST
jaychampionvinyl: FASCISM
JeffreyBeaumont: yes
JeffreyBeaumont: the first 10 times i played this record this was the ONLY song i understood
JeffreyBeaumont: it was also the a) the only song i easily learned how to play on guitar and b) the only one not requiring me to retune my guitar$$$$
jaychampionvinyl: hahaha yes
jaychampionvinyl: I can see a young Beaumont in my mind
jaychampionvinyl: gingerly finding the chords
jaychampionvinyl: and then strumming hard on them
JeffreyBeaumont: think they were like E / G / A / D / D
JeffreyBeaumont: No-- G / D / C / A / A [after checking]
jaychampionvinyl: haha
JeffreyBeaumont: in hindsight this seems to be the least interesting song on the record
JeffreyBeaumont: i rememebr reading the liner notes on seeing that it was the only song with a guest musician
JeffreyBeaumont: "Xtra guitar: Ian MacKaye"
JeffreyBeaumont: i remember thinking, "Whoever this dude is, he's obviously more of a rocker than these guys"
JeffreyBeaumont: Yeah.

jaychampionvinyl: the back half of this is starting to lose me in its jam waters
JeffreyBeaumont: yeah
JeffreyBeaumont: nic fit = weird nothing
JeffreyBeaumont: On the Strip though
jaychampionvinyl: yes, I typed that RIGHT before Kim's vox started in
JeffreyBeaumont: it gets unjammy again
jaychampionvinyl: this is like the clearest moment on the entire CD
jaychampionvinyl: the fog parts
jaychampionvinyl: and then there's creepy Kim
jaychampionvinyl: whispering at you
jaychampionvinyl: and it's way scarier than when she screams
jaychampionvinyl: because now she's actually a Woman
jaychampionvinyl: and they're pretty scary
JeffreyBeaumont: she was probably the creepiest musician i'd yet encountered

JeffreyBeaumont: oh man and then Chapel Hill is a brilliant rainbow
jaychampionvinyl: yeah Thurston comes back and is like, "it's cool bro, she's gone. wanna go through 7 inches with me?"
jaychampionvinyl: "it was all a bad dream"
JeffreyBeaumont: "WANT TO FEEL SAFE TONIGHT"
JeffreyBeaumont: "DON'T WANT TO SLEEP WITH THE VULTURE LADY!"
jaychampionvinyl: hahaha YES YES
JeffreyBeaumont: 2:49
JeffreyBeaumont: !!!!!!!!!
jaychampionvinyl: this was a guitar freakout I could get down with
JeffreyBeaumont: man, this record has some fucking GREAT breakdowns/bridges/codas/outros
jaychampionvinyl: places to get lost
jaychampionvinyl: so many good ones
JeffreyBeaumont: none of which feature eddie vedder moaning, "COME TO ME / COME TO GOD"
jaychampionvinyl: hahaha
jaychampionvinyl: gives me that BTS feeling, circa Perfect From Now On, so much glorious friendly noise to lie down in
JeffreyBeaumont: with really beautiful tight spindly but jammy guitar lines and riffs

JeffreyBeaumont: another Kim song
JeffreyBeaumont: which now sounds reasonable
JeffreyBeaumont: but even this track was just weird for me
jaychampionvinyl: did I miss Kim? I stood up to watch a video of babies being dropped from balconies onto blankets in India

JeffreyBeaumont: yeah, but then Purr!
JeffreyBeaumont: it's like they play good cop bad cop on this record
jaychampionvinyl: I was just gonna say the same
JeffreyBeaumont: thurston gets the fun major scale sunsmiles
jaychampionvinyl: yes!
JeffreyBeaumont: and kim gets the dour "scare their children" creepscapes
jaychampionvinyl: it's like Kim's the camp counselor who tells the creepy ghost story and Thurston's the guy counselor who jokes with you afterward and convinces you it wasn't real
jaychampionvinyl: while Kim just stares at you stonfaced, nodding, mouthing "It IS real. YOu're going to die."
JeffreyBeaumont: and then wakes up at night by rapping on your window and peering through it at you with a candle next to her face
jaychampionvinyl: haaa you get it exactly

JeffreyBeaumont: and then, finally, the fuckstick of "Creme Brulee"
JeffreyBeaumont: a track which is about as unlike the dessert as any music i could imagine
jaychampionvinyl: this is when she sneaks into your cabin at 3am and fucks you in the ass with a stick while whispering this into your ear
jaychampionvinyl: and on THAT NOTE
jaychampionvinyl: little known fact: creme brulee is slang for a horribly invasive sex act
JeffreyBeaumont: really?
jaychampionvinyl: no
JeffreyBeaumont: "i'm so happy we're just friends"
jaychampionvinyl: right, as she withdraws stick and leaves
jaychampionvinyl: that's her parting line
jaychampionvinyl: door slams
jaychampionvinyl: "Don't tell Bobby about our fun"
JeffreyBeaumont: if kim deal spied me through my bedroom window late one night
JeffreyBeaumont: she could do whatever she wanted to me if she broke in to my apartment and came in my room
jaychampionvinyl: or even Kim Gordon
JeffreyBeaumont: hahaha, ideally, both of them, at once
JeffreyBeaumont: today, in 2009
jaychampionvinyl: right
jaychampionvinyl: hahahahahaha
jaychampionvinyl: good lord
jaychampionvinyl: a spectral art hag and a weird, dumpy trucker lesbian
JeffreyBeaumont: when i first heard the song "Little Trouble Girl" (from Washing Machine) in college i actually creamed my pants
JeffreyBeaumont: like, "Oh hey Shrimp Cracker, i need to go home. My pants are creamed"
jaychampionvinyl: hahahahahaha
JeffreyBeaumont: why couldn't have kim deal just made an entire record with sonic youth? on the topic of things that should have happened but never even sort of did
jaychampionvinyl: Umm. yeah, I gotta go.

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NOTES:
$$$$ -- Actually, according to this fan-made page of SY album tunings, even "Youth Against Facism" uses special tunings; in fact, out of their entire discography after the first EP, only the track "Mildred Pierce" uses a standard EADGBE guitar tuning (excepting the Stooges and Crime covers "I Wanna Be Your Dog" and "Hot Wire My Heart"). Seriously, wow. Amazing, yes. But Willful Obscurantists, I'd call them, also.

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