Monday, November 12, 2007
Old people is whiny bitches

The following is an excerpt of a conversation between myself and a forty-something coworker, who, after being inspired by this piece-of-shit post from the blog Vanishing New York, decided it was time to convince me that my generation is "a bunch of whiny beetches!!" This is not "edited" and therefore likely not very interesting. But blogs must blog, and my mom's in town so whatever.

Conversation

JeffreyBeaumont: So i just discovered that this Chinese guy we invited to the meeting i do every year just turned 100 in October. No wonder he's never come!
FormerNationalReporter: Ha. Ok, watch 60 minuites last night, your generation is a bunch of whiny beetches!!1
JeffreyBeaumont: dude, the very fact you are drawing from 60 Minutes as a source demonstrates the difference between your generation and mine
60 Minutes is like "the dinosaur celebration hour"
FormerNationalReporter: Quoting: They believe anyone over 30 is "old, redundant, should be retired." This is their attitude not only about human beings, but also about mom-and-pop businesses, old buildings, and ways of life. They value only the young and the new.
More than half of them move back home after graduating college, where they know they'll be safe in a coddling environment. After that, I guess mom and dad buy condos for them.
Helicopter parents actually call their children's bosses and HR departments to complain about Junior's bad performance evaluations, the same way they complained to teachers about unsatisfactory grades.
Says one of these kids, he wants lots of praise from his boss: "We want to hear it and truly we'd love for our parents to know. There's nothing better than Mom getting that letter saying, 'You know, Ryan did a great job. Yeah, I just wanted to let you know you raised a fantastic son.'" !? Okay, I'm speechless on this one. Why, for chrissake, would you ever want your boss to call your mother?

They cannot tolerate being told what to do or how to do it. Millions of dollars are being spent on consultants who tell bosses, basically, "Sweet talk these kids. Don't express disappointment in them. Praise them, let them arrange work around their yoga schedules, and give them lots of rewards--just for showing up." This is terrible advice for dealing with narcissists. It only allows them to continue living in the bubble of their personality disorder.
JeffreyBeaumont: is that something you wrote or excerpted from the link?
FormerNationalReporter: excerpt
JeffreyBeaumont: i've definitely said this to you before: "old, redundant, should be retired."
However, i live and die for mom and pops, don't get "help" from my parents
my issue with old people is just one of many of them obscuring reality because they have the power to do so

FormerNationalReporter
: this is from a blog--vanishing new york--and of course there are exceptions to the generalizations
Yunnies are the perfect neighborhood destruction machines due to their lack of empathy, sense of entitlement, and contempt for those "beneath" them. Their rage against mom-&-pop shops, I believe, comes in part from the very name "mom & pop," which reminds them of the truly loving parents they lack. The fallible humanity of these shops inevitably disappoints and frustrates the Yunnies. "What do you mean you're out of skim milk?" they tantrum, and "I can take my dog wherever I want!"

Watch out. Arm yourself with the facts about Yunnies:
- They feel cut off from real human connection so they create constant pseudo-connections via cell phones or Blackberries.
- They feel empty, so they shop compulsively and consume aggressively.
- They are grandiose and believe the world revolves around them.
- They demand constant attention--shouting personal details into cell phones and making dramatic scenes is a favorite way to draw attention to themselves.
- Their hidden, deep belief in their own worthlessness makes them strive for high-status jobs and condo lifestyles, where a false sense of power temporarily lifts them up.
- At the extreme end, Yunnies are sociopathic, without conscience and without remorse (think Paris Hilton)--these are the most dangerous and, I believe, the fastest growing subgroup.

JeffreyBeaumont: hmm
i think that's worthless bunk, honestly
FormerNationalReporter: some truth in that dude, I see it all the time
JeffreyBeaumont: honestly, the first part you sent i was following but this second part just sounds like the rage of someone who doesn't know what to do with himself anymore
FormerNationalReporter: now I personally think it is technology--and technology has created a huge disconnect in our society...and we have forgotten the idea of shared collectiv experience
as for the chains...
JeffreyBeaumont: all the things he described are NO DIFFERENT than the fucks who lined Wall St in the 80s
FormerNationalReporter: here is the thing...people who grew up elsewhere are used to chains (starbucks, subway, etc.) so when they come to NYC to live, they want the chains
it makes them feel comfortable and that their neighborhood is cool
JeffreyBeaumont: i also don't believe at all that young people are against mom and pops
in fact
FormerNationalReporter: They don't roll their eyes at the prospect of a starbucks on every fourth corner because they are accustomed to that from their upbringing
JeffreyBeaumont: i'd argue that young people are the only ones left in the urban world who are trying to fight the good fight to save mom and pops
it is "middle-aged" people in urban environments who have collectively destroyed mom and pops
and no one but them should get that blame
FormerNationalReporter: of course, not everyone is...but a lot are.you don't see them because to your credit you are not part of that world--except for pushing poles out of williansburg and greenpiont but hell that was done long before you showed up. :)
JeffreyBeaumont: dude we are pushing the poles out now because 80s yuppies pushed all middle and lower incomes out of manhattan then
young people now are the same as young people always: headstrong, overconfident, disrespectful of the past
FormerNationalReporter: true but there is to me a greater sense of entitlement now
and it does start with the bullshit mentality of everyone gets a trophy for just showing up
JeffreyBeaumont: but i can't believe for a second that they're any worse or disrespectful or have greater senses of entitleman than folks who came of age in the 80s
FormerNationalReporter: I don't know...I came of age in the 80s and I didn't really have that sense, nor did my friends.
of course, we also weren't have the fun of 200K salaries and blow and strippers
dammit
JeffreyBeaumont: exactly
but those assholes were everywhere
i mean dude, they overwhelmingly voted in REAGAN
FormerNationalReporter: I agree that the vanishing new york guy is a little angry but he makes some good points, you should read his blog and you can comment on it to disagree, he writes back
JeffreyBeaumont: aka Joe McCarthy reincarnated as a less intelligent celebrity
i will find him
and hunt him down
FormerNationalReporter: vanishingnewyork.blogspot.com
and get your folks to beat him up for you
that was a joke
JeffreyBeaumont: dude, don't think i don't have "folks"
i got folks
FormerNationalReporter: I meant your actual parents==the whole spoiled generation thing
JeffreyBeaumont: oh yeah
right
FormerNationalReporter: there are too many chains
I don't know why Chase needs a bank every three blocks
I don't know how they all stay in business
and I know i'm a hypocrite with my starbucks everyday
JeffreyBeaumont: dude
FormerNationalReporter: yes
JeffreyBeaumont: the ONLY reason that shit exists now
is because of greedy asshole exectutives
many of whom came of age in the 80s
FormerNationalReporter: but the funny thing is, isn't starbucks the kind of company we are supposed to embrace
don't they in theory try to do right, etc
JeffreyBeaumont: i live in a generation where, when we try to protest that kind of shit, our middle-and-older aged government looks us in the eye and says "Fuck you, we could give a shit what you think"
FormerNationalReporter: ultimately though they grow and go public and all that shit and then it's gobble gobble until they've eaten everything up
ok, how'd we get from starbucks to the gov
JeffreyBeaumont: yeah and again, howard schulz is not a millennial
young people protest creations of Walmart and Starbucks
but just like our protests of government action, it all falls on deaf ears
FormerNationalReporter: but there was a time when a starbucks was not the end of the world
JeffreyBeaumont: i used to live in a building in bushwich where 13 starbucks employees lived
they formed their own fucking labor union
because howard schulz, like walmart, disallows them
FormerNationalReporter: in LA, where there isn't the local culture, etc. i didnt care or feel guilty about going to starbucks
problem is, we can't turn back the clock
JeffreyBeaumont: you should have though
FormerNationalReporter: I should have
JeffreyBeaumont: and then my fellow millennials wouldn't be bearing the burden of your mistakes
haa!
FormerNationalReporter: so, lead the revolution
I'll stand out of the way
Hey, if I ran things I'd reinstate the draft
JeffreyBeaumont: i'm raising my troops dude
don't get me wrong, i don't think my generation is any more special
but i don't think we're any worse
and if we are, it's because we were made that way by deranged babyboomers
FormerNationalReporter: a little worse, but it's my generation and the one before mine's fault
JeffreyBeaumont: this is an issue: how are we supposed to learn "respect" when, in our first elections as adults (2000), we basically have election fraud
leading to the election of a creepy scumbag who garnered less than a majority of votes
and then all we get is shit from our supposed "older friends" for considering voting for Nader
as if its OUR fault the election went awry
FormerNationalReporter: no, it's nader's fault
JeffreyBeaumont: no man, it's regular people's fault
adults with power and privilege
for not standing behind an America that should matter
nader is just one dude
we always have people like him
what matters are the rest of the lazy-dicked "adults" too comfortable with their summer homes, five cars-for-four-family-members and bigscreen TVs
the ones who forgot what "giving a shit" means and sat by as our country was led down a road of at least eight years of extended horseshit

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